2009/05/20 New York
Pregnant
Explosion
Tonight I saw Atom Egoyan’s movie “Adoration”. I’m afraid the movie is not going to be a box office hit. If you want to see it you may need to hurry.
Stephen Holden wrote in the Times: ‘In “Adoration,” a profound and provocative exploration of cultural inheritance, communications technology and the roots and morality of terrorism, the Canadian filmmaker Atom Egoyan nimbly wades into an ideological minefield without detonating an explosion. (…)The story is based on a real incident in 1986, in which a Jordanian terrorist secreted a bomb in the hand luggage of his pregnant Irish girlfriend without her knowledge on an El Al flight from London to Israel. Had it exploded, 380 passengers would have died.’
Speaking of which, usually I try to avoid mentioning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on this site, for the arguments are well-known and the discussion is as poisoned as possible, but recently stratfor provided a clear, intelligent and unsentimental analysis of the situation, very much worth reading as is “Adoration” worth seeing.
Stratfor writes: “For this reason, the entire peace process — including the two-state solution — is a chimera. Neither side can live with what the other can offer. But if it is a fiction, it is a fiction that serves U.S. purposes. The United States has interests that go well beyond Israeli interests and sometimes go in a different direction altogether. Like Israel, the United States understands that one of the major obstacles to any serious evolution toward a two-state solution is Arab hostility to such an outcome.”
14 comments
Is there ever a total solution to satisfy the needs and fears and constantly changing desires of millions of people?
Is it as good as The Sweet Hereafter?
So if I understand the article correctly the status-quo is preferrable then a real chang because any change is potentially explosive. Flabbergasting, if you ask me. This is a sad, sad world, especially for the Palestinians.
Helena
The stratfor-article is a description of how things are and why they are like that, it’s not about how thing should be. I guess we all know how things should be.
Tabatha
Hesitantly I answer: yes.
Then I shall certainly make an effort to see it. Thank you.
i came up out the basement at sant ambreous one morning and there was full out hood, splayed legged and carrying , parked on that table by the bathroom door that forstman and acquavella and the nahmads used to fight over so .. i'm like wtf.. there was another one back in the corner by the office.. netanyahu was having breakfast.. i was furious.. after they had left ('we're moving out' they whispered at their lapels) .. i raged at paoli (who was always kindly indulgent of my tempers which i think he found amusing if inexplicable): 'so were they to take him here they have to spray shoot the whole place? the pregnant girls , the babies in carriages, the crazy chinese boys? is that the idea? if netanyahu takes a bullet, well so? he made choices.. all the time i see caroline kennedy who did nothing but get born hailing cabs on her lonesome.. some mommas raise children to be hard..' the notion of a unitary us state interest seems very iffy to me howsoever policy wonks in washington may express themselves so.. out in the world the us has allowed to flourish concepts of nationhood unrelated to our own experience.. if we built in the mideast a nation like ours it would be.. idk .. the great democratic holy ottoman empire.. and the tv stations would broadcast from jerusalem.. that's where all the jews are
I read the article and didn't understand what is the price Israel cannot afford to pay. Also, I didn't understand what should be. Somehow the most important answers are left out from both the article and the discussion here. What does everybody know that I don't?
quin
I remember having seen Nethanayu having coffee at st ambroeus but there were only two or three body guards.
The last politician I saw at st ambroeus was Warren Christopher. He was without any bodyguards.
The great democractic ottoman empire is a marvelous idea by the way.
The food at st ambroeus is slowly deteriorating but I'm to lazy to go somewhere else.
arnon
i'm sorry to hear it of the food but a good kitchen is such a fragile thing i can't be surprised.. that kitchen under mario in those days when you started coming was a temple of wonder. one summer emeril lagasse spent a month touring italy and he came home and ate three nights n a row at sant ambroeus cos you couldn't get that sant ambroeus stuff in italy anymore.. idk that for a fact for i've never been to italy that's just what people tell me.. the kitchen was near all domincans then and they were sweet and innocent of industrial guile.. i am fearful that it may have been the watching of emeril that sullied their artisanly culture.. i say that with all love in my heart towards emerill.. he always sane and straight up in my experience
in southampton i could stand in the door and watch mario cook
watching mario cook a penne pomodoro was something else
mario 'd get mad : "you are hurrying me!"
me: "i'm just watching"
mario: "you must understand , mr quin, it takes time
me: "mario, it's for a four year old"
mario: "it doesn't matter"
quin
Ah Mario, he was a legend. What happened to him? There was an older couple at St Ambroeus, regulars, I believe the man was called Josef. The woman often started her sentences with: "Tell Mario..."
But she also used to say to her husband: “You have been giving me headaches for more than twenty years.”
After St Ambroeus closed in the fall of 2001 I have never seen them again.
arnon
were they one of the ones with with rtual kicking games under the table? in those of tthe pre-google generation it's hard to keep track... likely dead.. i'm sure pretty sure dr. luria 's gone .. she was a party of three.. two middlish aged male psychiatrists presumably gay.. she got the check.. one time this gorgeous girl who had with a date blundered in on a sat. nite called me over "can you ask them to quit yelling at that old lady?" that girl was so cute.. of her i have clear remembrance
Quin
Excuse me, the name of the gentleman was Mich.
Another famous visitor you might remember was Leo Castelli with his younger mistress who always dressed in black.
After Leo passed away I saw her a few times in flowery skirts and dresses.
I cannot remember many young people coming in at the heydays of sant ambroeus.
arnon
that was the baileys.. i never really knew their story was except i gathered the money was hers.. i sorta assume mario is still with the family somewhere .. uncle leo married that girl actually.. her name's barbara and i think she still has a galley up on 79th.. we were sort of aged at sant ambroeus but there were occasional breezes.. stella schnabel came in the first time i remember when she about sixteen with some kin of bulgari's and ordered a bloody mary.. i knew perfectly well who she was and how old she was but i brought it for her.. and she sent it back the little whore.. "there's not enough horseradish!" me: "i don't know there's any horseradish in that" her: "you can't make a bloody mary without horseradish!" such a know it all snoot that girl.. julian schnabel is a terrible old poot but he does breed some prety flesh