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A friend alerted me to an interview with Gay Talese in The Paris Review: ‘My first job was on the sports desk, but I didn’t want to write about sporting events. I wanted to write about people. I wrote about a losing boxer, a horse trainer, and the guy in the boxing ring who rang the bell between rounds. I was interested in fiction. I wanted to write like Fitzgerald. I collected his work—his short stories and journals. “Winter Dreams” is my favorite story of all time. The good nonfiction writers were writing about famous people, or topical people, or public people. No one was writing about unknown people. I knew I did not want to be on the front page. On the front page you’re stuck with the news. The news dominates you. I wanted to dominate the story. I wanted to pick subjects that were not the ordinary assignment editor’s idea of a story. My idea was to use some of the techniques of a fiction writer: scene setting, dialogue, and even interior monologue, if you knew your people well enough. I was writing short stories, and there were not many people on the Times who were doing that. Once, at an NYU baseball game, I overheard a conversation between a young couple who were having a lovers’ quarrel. I wrote the dialogue and I told the story of the game through what they were watching and what they were saying. At the St. Patrick’s Day parade, I wrote about the last person in the procession, a little guy who was carrying a tuba, and behind him came the sanitation trucks. I followed the parade from the vantage point of this tuba player.’

If you are a good writer you want to dominate the story.


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Have you ever taken notes during a quarrel you yourself had with someone e.g. on the telephone?
Kinky
I was at a "stadsdeel" - office yesterday and I wondered whether that migt be a place for you to be embedded for a while? You get to wear a retro uniform and can stamp documents, tell people where to sign forms for passports, ask what last name they'd like to give their unborn child and why. And have coffee breaks at fixed times. I particularly like it when they talk to the colleague next to them about recipes when you're standing there waiting for information on how to file for divorce.
Tabatha
I'll keep it in mind.
Juliane
I only take notes for non-fiction pieces.
Arnon
Have you ever been interviewed by Zeeman?
Arnon
Can stories occasionally dominate good writers in a positive way as well?
School
Does that mean you're not from the 'school' that says that a story 'mostly writes itself', that as an author, you only have to give a little helping hand here and there, to guide the thing a little?
Like Mulisch said, that a book is a dialogue between the writer and his story, that they both have a saying in the thing? Would you say a book is mostly a monologue?
Joost
Perhaps.
Hordijk
In general I believe that one should not mythicize the work of the author.
Mieke
I've met him a number of times.
Joost
PS Pay close attention, I wrote "you want to..."
PS
And, noteworthy, you also wrote "If", which has quite a sympathetic ring to me in this context.
Mr Grunberg
It's exactly the 'you want to' I beg to question. Don't you think it's also a quality of good writers that they can 'let loose' at times, to not try to force their own agenda too stubbornly on their story, but to keep an open mind to where the story is taking them? To go with the flow of the story, so to say. I consider you to be one of the best writers of the Netherlands in this day and age, don't you work by that principle at all? That would certainly change my perception of how to write a good story.
Oh,
...and in Vienna, what would you recommend in Vienna?
Jan
Otto Weininger.
@joost (and arnon)
In my opinion the/your word 'want' is telling that a good writer wishes to dominate the story and that this intention points out who's a good writer.
The sentence does not tell me that all good writers dominate their stories and that all good stories are dominated creations.
Allemagne
Wirtshaus Steirerstöckl
http://www.steirerstoeckl.at/
and the Freud museum.
The Jewish Museum isn't bad either.
The Prater in honor of "The Third Man".
There is a Third Man Museum as well.
http://www.3mpc.net/englsamml.htm
Hordijk
An author needs to believe that he is in control of his creation, as all human beings need to believe that they are in possession of a free will.
Mister Grunberg, wouldn't it be safe to say that in general, all human beings like to feel they are in control and indeed, writers are only human? All right then: particularly so in the west ('west' as defined by occidentalists).
Tabatha
Some people very much enjoy the feeling of losing control. So the answer is: no.
Then - when it's for enjoyment - the act of losing control is in itself a controlled act. Similar to the writer who pushes her character over the edge.
@Tabatha
Like some people say: every act of altruism is only camouflaged egoism ?
Tabatha
I couldn't help but notice your usage of the pronoun "her" in connection with the term "writer" as a means of allowing for gender-neutrality/-equality. Would you alternate between female and male pronouns if your comment were more elaborate and do you, by any chance, know if this is a specifically American English phenomenon?
several people
Thanks for the advice on Vienna and Schliersee
Dear Juliane B.
My educational history is Anglo-Saksen so you may be right about it being an American/English thing, but I'm not entirely sure. However, I don't believe in positive discrimination. Also, in my opinion social grace is a virtue, but political correctness isn't necessarily.