2009/09/07 Glion
Implosion
Blindingly obvious
Anatol Lieven, a a professor in the War Studies Department of King’s College London, published an interesting defense of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact in this weekend’s Herald Tribune: "This leads to the question: If Stalin had declared war or risked war with Germany in 1939, and Hitler had extended his attack on Poland to an invasion of the Soviet Union, what would Britain and France have done to help? The answer is blindingly obvious: Just what they did to help Poland — nothing. As for the United States, its own absence in 1939 does not allow its representatives any right to take any position on these issues. Mr. Putin and other Russian representatives are perfectly entitled to point this out."
Mr. Lieven also added a postscript to the “Historikerstreit”:
“As for the idea of moral equivalence between the history of Nazi Germany and of the Soviet Union as a whole, that should have been laid to rest by the way in which the Soviet Union withdrew peacefully from Eastern Europe after 1989, and then imploded itself — remarkably peacefully for such a huge state. This is not something that one can imagine Nazi Germany doing.”
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Would the withdrawal of the Soviet have been so peaceful 50 years ago, when Stalin was still alive? How would the Nazi- regime have evolved had it survived WWII ?
It's a strange reasoning that the acts of the father (i.e. the very inhuman nature of the Stalin-regime) are purified by something his grandchildren did 50 years later. In the 1940's nobody could know what would happen in the rest of the century. Nor where they able to anticipate on it.
But the story has of course not ended: the children of the 1989-generation are not very happy with the way things happened then.
Michel
That's fantastic. Congratulations.
Congratulations to both Mr. Michel V. and Mr. Arnon
Then there is also that other agreement with two names in it, the Sykes-Picot agreement. What would have happened if this had an opposite outcome?
Should we care about these questions at all? Or just think this is now, and make the best of it?
I don't know, however it is beer oçlock so I'm of to the fridge.
@Mieke
Yes. Look what Himmler and Goering did at the end of the war while Hitler was still alive.
Maybe Nazi Germany without Hitler would have imploded too.
Himmler and Goering had totally unrealistic ideas about making peace with the Allies. They thought they could negotiate about an "honorable peace". They came with their plans at a moment that Germany was 98% defeated. No allied commander, Russian, or Western had any need to talk to them.
There is no comparision with the situation in the USSR 44 years after the war.
@Aliefka, Mieke, Dens
Thank you.