What a wonderboy you are..

wobke

It was exactly two o'clock in the morning when I arrived home. The strange sense of alienation lasted the rest of the night. No sex though.

Yes

Yes, you did it !
and Yes I agree with you.

A friend told me recently: "Let the others create you. Don't try to create yourself." Apparently alienation is also a proper method to develop a personality that goes down well with everyone.

I've attended a reading by Christiaan Weijts a couple of weeks ago. He talked about the feeling of alienation of "autochtonen" in "achterstandswijken". It was quite annoying, I have to say.

Sex as alianation is far more interesting to discuss. :) Good luck!

Alienation

Let's talk about celibacy , is that the opposite from alienation ? It should be, if sex is alienation. Takes celibacy you to the core of being real ?

@arnon

From what or who have you been alienated in your dream?
I was thinking that longing for sex gives birth to alienation.

Or were you reading A. Moravio in Italy?

If one gets familiar with it, alienation is such a wonderfull state of mind.

i didn't like the condition of being alienated, listening to the sopraan and her alienate shoes. so i left,.

I didn't like the feeling of being alienated,listenint to sopraan SN and her alienate shoes. So i left ,with my"rond de wereld"" to a bar, no sex as well but fun end of the night.

Last weekend I experienced wonderful sex: alienation was gone for at least a few hours. The woman thought the sex was wonderful, thanks to me; I thought it was wonderful, thanks to her. Maybe it was simply a gift from the Gods. An exceptional day, indeed.

I didn't like the condition of being alienate, so i lft.

Bernard f

I'm happy for you. You certainly deserve some glorious sex.

I don't understand why sex is alienation.

Awadel

I live as a celibate - for many, many years now- , it's an easy way of life, but I doubt it brings you any closer to whatever truth you are looking for.

Bernard

Good for you.

@ Dens, Mieke,
Thanks!

Dens

When was he last you felt alienated?
When was the last time you had sex?

Mr. Arnon

I think every day I alienate a little from everything.
It's been a little over a month now. What about you?

Mieke Dutoit

It was just asking I was doing, perhaps you know the answer? Do you feel more real being without the intimacy of a partner ? Less divided ? I thought alienation starts when you meet another human being, but this opinion might be a personal folly of myself.

Finished reading a book today ("Der Mann schläft" by Sibylle Berg) in which sex seemed to play no important role for the intense love and closeness of the couple described. Whenever sex came into play it was in the context of alcohol, suffering and loneliness.

In my opinion sex gets in the way of things far too often. It's a nuisance.

Hanny

By definition, one cannot get too familiar with alienation. Not alienation, but the familiarity thereof is a wonderful state of mind.

When familiar with it, also the longing for sex can be a wonderful state of mind; I promise you it gives birth to many things.

Familiarity breeds contempt

Arnon

The sight of you with Mayu in your arms is for ever deeply in my mind. Good luck sunday.

Ik ben Tirza (net 15) en ik wil u alleen maar hartelijk bedanken voor uw bestaan en uw werk. Eigenlijk zou ik graag contact met u willen opnemen over het een en ander, maar ik verwacht eerlijk gezegd dat u immens arrogant bent en ook niet bepaald geïntresseerd in mij ;-). Dit moet u niet als een belediging opvatten, want het is slechts een teken van mijn lafheid!! Als ik BETER ben in alles durf ik misschien. Vriendelijke groeten!

Tirza

Mr. Arnon is a very kind man, at least in his contacts with strangers. I can't talk for anything else.