2010/05/25 New York
I'll be what I am
Car dealer
Tonight a friend and I saw the movie “Solitary Man” by Brian Koppel.
My friend hated the movie. She found the main character Ben (Michael Douglas) annoying, the story unbelievable and above all depressing.
I really liked the movie; it’s a convincing portrait of the car dealer as an older man –
glib, pathetic, lusting after college girls, unable to distinguish between fear of death and fear of self-knowledge.
Also the movie and its title song reminded me of the existence of Neil Diamond’s song “Solitary Man”:
“I'll be what I am / A solitary man.”
14 comments
Arnon.
Does the state of being a solitary man humiliate you?
Neria
Don't you think that feeling or being humiliated as a solitary man depends on what causes this state? Did you want your question to implie this?
As an older man, I can assure you, the lust for (young) women never dies. It is merely waxing and waning. (And it is all my fault, contrary to the lyrics of the above song – Indeed, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa)
Hanny
I didn't want my question to imply anything. The friend said it was a depressing film, Arnon said he liked the film for it's accuracy but he didn't mention anything about the possible feelings of solitary men. Do solitary men lust for college girls because their loneliness arise so much uncontainable feelings in them that college girls serve to dim? I have no convictions regarding the feelings of solitary men. I had to think about my question with regard to my own feelings and concluded that I feel far more humiliated while having to make use of public transportation than while experiencing loneliness. I wondered if Arnon experience his loneliness as humiliation.
Neria
I don't think Arnon is lonely. His life is filled with loving , caring people. He's just not married, wich is not the same as being solitary.
Mieke
The only Arnon I know is the person whose texts I read mainly here and I find his character annoying and depressing and also convincingly lonesome. I'm too tired now to learn more about this character but if everybody here participates in its creation I'll take your word for it.
I used to get annoyed by exchanging thoughts with spokeswomen here but it had ceased to be a fundamental issue.
Neria
There is a big difference between the fictionalised Arnon, what he projects and the private person. This a good thing for me, otherwise my motherheart would want to save him. And salvation by me is the last thing Arnon needs.
Grunbergwijn
Arnon, ben je zeker dat de wijn van topkwaliteit is, Vijfentwintig euro per fles is behoorlijk veel. Mij klonk het in de oren als een oplichtersverhaaltje waarbij jou -goede- naam verbonden wordt aan een middelmatig product om een topprijs te kunnen vragen.
Mieke
Lucht verkoopt goed, als het maar goed 'gebakken' gebracht wordt. Zo ook met wijn, kan ik me voorstellen. In bepaalde milieus zal de combinatie Freud, Topor en Grunberg zeker aanslaan. En oplichterverhaaltjes lezen ook zo lekker weg…
(kleine lapsus bij de “jou”?)
The side of Arnon we see here is a perfect remedy for the very high Kuifje-level of Arnons road trip-stories which make older women feel all motherly and caring.
And me, for instance, I find loneliness uplifting and an enhancement of ones creativity.
But that’s just me. How about you?
@katrien vk
"i find loneliness uplifting and an enhancement of ones creativity"
ervaringskennis ?
Katrien
Bedankt voor de "jou", had het zelf nog niet opgemerkt.
Mensen noemen mij al jaren 'der Einzelgänger', maar ik voel me zelden eenzaam, te druk bezig in mijn hoofd met creëren.
M en MP
my feelings exactly!
and yes, goes without saying!
mieke
now that moved me
I am a solitary men and I still prefer this way of living.
I've got options but they don't bother me.