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The disadvantages of outrage

A modest discussion

A couple of days ago a fairly modest discussion took place on this site about what should be done in order to free kidnapped journalists, well not only journalists, kidnapped people period.
Basically two arguments were being made: The first one was that paying attention to the fate of the kidnapped journalist Johnston is slightly hypocritical and maybe even unfortunate because so many other killings and abductions go unnoticed.
The second argument was that negotiating with abductors is always a victory for the abductors.
I believe that those who are ready to discard these two arguments have a strong case.
But as this article in The New York Times shows it is important to get information right before rushing to be outraged. This article proofs (“Toughness is the watchword in immigration policy these days. When you combine the new toughness with same-old bureaucratic indolence and ineptitude, you get a situation like that described by Nina Bernstein in The Times yesterday. She wrote about how the boom in immigration detention — the nation’s fastest-growing form of incarceration — ensnares people for dubious reasons, denies them access to medicine and lawyers and sometimes holds them until they die.”) that Gitmo itself is not an exception. And by focussing on Gitmo alone too many people might believe that the probleem is solved when Gitmo closes. Which is going to happen in the not so far future.


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First things first: where's Jan? Are you out there?
Is the only conclusion to be made then that it's all media-propaganda? Closing Gitmo will keep us (we the voters) quiet for a while. As will saving Johnston. In Holland, quite the opposite to the siuations described in your article is happening. City councils refuse to give our government a list of illegal immigrants for whom the general pardon does not apply.
But does that make Holland a better place than USA? Or a more hypocritical place?
We must not forget that we are all humans with parents and all!
Dens and Tess
Come you can do better than this Dens, and let's not immediately blame the media for our own shortcomings, Tess .
Very true. It was an incredibly lame reaction of mine. And right now, I am no longer capable of thinking straight (and I don't want to think straight) as I just returned from a magnificently unsettling opera Doctor Atomic (directed by: Peter Sellars). Oh my oh my oh my Arnon: perhaps you've seen it already. If you haven't and you get the chance to - please go.
In 'het aapje dat geluk pakt' is a diplomat who doesn't care much about the humanrights nowadays. I must say I'm still tainted with these or the anti-thoughts.

I thought the article in the NY Times was very strangly written, it seemed as though there were two sepperate subjects talked of. Maybe I read it too fast.

Closing Gitmo will do some good for the populists, of course, and maybe it will do some good on a prisonscale as well, when guards live up to the ideal, but it'll be all a shortterm sollution. Once one feels superior, one does like to exploid these moments. That Gitmo isn't the exeption is not shocking at all. A black sheep may take the blame, but it still remains a sheep.
@Tess
I am sorry to inform you that the character Jan has died on this blog. He has fade away by neglect. He needed only a small life saving gesture of compassion, the kind of chaste kiss that cannot be asked for by the frog in a fairy tale. Instead he received an overdose of yet brilliant and not so brilliant irony.
Now the owner of this site, can only redeem from eternal damnation by covering himself, in public, with fondue cheese and his spectacles be knocked off his nose by a fierce woman, the winner of the mud wrestling contest, by preference.
These are my final words on this site.
Love, also for Arnon.
The ghost of
Jan Thys
Well JanThys, sometimes your public persona has to make place for another persona. Maybe you should make a comeback on this site as a woman? Or even better an octogenerian?
Don't let us wait too long.
A last question: Under how many names do you exactly operate on this site? I would like to urge you and the other users not to use more than seven different names. There is a limit to hubris.
Only one name . Sorry and thank you. Goodbye.
Jan Thys
You are a modest person. And you are a man I assume?
Your small chronicle of your deparure foretold really makes me melancholic.
Did you expect to make new friends on this site? (This is not yet a dating site.)
Did you expect me to do more than I have done? (I'm not yet a saint.)
Or are you just sick? (If you want a dentist just open your mouth for me.)
As I said before if there's anything I can do for you let me know.
Also on behalf of Sander, thank you for making this site more interesting and we all hope to see you again.
@Arnon
You speak kind words that can cure a hart. I even feel embarrassed.
But enough now, once you shall become The Saint with the ironic smile of the crocodile!
See you later, my good man. (I need a break)
@Jan Thys, I love to open this blog first thing in the morning and read your comment even before I read Arnon's entry. Is this commenting-business becoming a health-hazard to you? If so, am I in danger too? Or has your boss caught you red handed?
@Jan
Does this mean we 'll stop mailing as well?

@ everyone else, do you have more than one name on this commenting thing? Should I get one?
Jan Thys & Dens
Jan Thys, you are a lovely drama queen, which is not a big surprise because according to my information you are the sister of Tess.
Dens, my dear Dens, there is only one commentator and then there is you. All the other comments are written by one and the same person: a Dutch lady, living in Croatia, she has fascist sympathies and she is the proud owner of a moustache. Her is age is 74.
My dear Dens, you are the only other real commentator. That’s why I’m proud of you.
You are for real. Even Sander’s comments are actually written by this lady in Croatia.
She is a genius but she will die soon.
Then it’s up to you Dens.
We are in desperate need of new characters, I’d love to have a commentator from New Zealand -- can you do it for me?
I can get you some New Zealand commentators in a few days. Yes. I will do my best to live up to this moustached lady's realm