Even iets anders.

Beste mijnheer Grunberg,

Een avond lang heb ik over het internet gesurft op zoek naar het stuk dat u aan uw tamelijk oninteressante collega A. F. Th. van der Heyden (schrijf ik het zo goed?)
geweid heeft. Ik heb mij tijdens het lezen van de kleine brokjes die ik op het internet heb kunnen vinden voornamelijk afgevraagd hoe u zich überhaupt heeft kunnen inlaten met het geploeter van deze schertsfiguur. Veel geïnteresseerder ben ik of u geloofd dat Jeff Koons van Cicciolina hield toen hij zijn monumentale copulatie vertoningen liet fotograferen. Of beter gezegd misschien ziet u in A.F.Th. van der Heyden wel een gewillige speelse partner voor uw eigen krachtmeting. Toch ben ik van gedachte dat er zich vastwel interessantere stoeipoezen aan dienen dan A.etc. Meer van uw Kaliber bedoel ik. Groeten uit Cairo,

Laura and I went to an Italian restaurant on Saturday night. I ordered a cup of tomato fennel soup and spaghetti aglio e olio. Not at any point during dinner did I consider adding cheese to my entree.

Strangely enough, too much luxury has the same effect on me as too much poverty, it makes me feel uneasy.

do you actually ever cook?
when i read Tirza i had un impression that you might know how to prepare the baked sardines, i wasn´t that sure about sushi and sushimi.
You sound like a GOURMET but do you know how much effort it takes to create a great meal?
What´s your speciality ?
P.S. My sister who lives in Dublin is a great fun of one japanease restaurant . Would like to know the adrress of it?

Even iets toevalligs

No, I don't know this Tarik,-fellow, but now I just have tocopy/ paste something out from my lousy, stinking shit-for-brains novel "Don't show, don't tell "( and, for Arnon behaves like the Chinese , goto: www.donkerland.nl). Alas this part has not been translated yet, so it is in Dutch:

"Hun werkruimte is een zaalgrote, zes meter hoge, lichtgroene oase. Een in het oog springend schilderij, geplaatst achter de mahoniehouten vergadertafel is van de hand van Gustave Courbet. Het is ‘De oorsprong van de wereld’ en een toepasselijker schilderij voor zijn én haar wereld is nauwelijks voorstelbaar. Dit schilderij, dit naaktschilderij verklaarde alles. Een op haar rug liggende, hoofd- en armloze vrouw, met de bovenbenen een stuk gespreid, haar vagina door de zwarte schaamharen heen vaagjes zichtbaar. Hoewel “de oorsprong” een flinke rel had veroorzaakt in 19de eeuws Frankrijk zou het tegenwoordig amper iemand meer kunnen shockeren. Iets verderop in de zaal staat een beeld van Jeff Koons bovenop én binnenin zijn toenmalige vrouw Cicciolina. Beide tijdperken hadden de kunstwerken het predikaat ‘keihard’ meegegeven. Toch was Courbet’s schilderij niet minder dan de waarheid! De gehele mensenwereld kwam tussen gespreide vrouwenbenen tevoorschijn. Een ludiek bedrijfsstatement, want het was natuurlijk ook de oorsprong van Robert’s en Savanah’s wereld. Hadden zij niet uit grote én kleine porno een hele boven- én onderwereld geschapen? "

The other day I red Koons sold a huge hart made out of ... for $60 million or so...Not bad for a years work ;)

Cheers!

And yet another act of shameless self-promotion. Anything to add for DISCUSSION Crebolder?

@Joep
Forgive me, but till now nobody could beat the king of self promotion, our one and only: Eddy Wally!
http://www.eddywally.be/
Maybe we can organize a contest?

@ Victor

I know this particular painting of Courbet very well, it's one of my favorites. Congratulations to you ; with your description you managed to violate it.

@ Victor

Oh, and be aware, Victor, it isn't only the link to your website that Sander and Arnon can zap away.

Mieke

Hehe, yeah, i didnt know the painting, but i thought (because of Victors description) it was about a naked amputee!

@ Victor

Besides your not very well informed about the history of the painting. No it didn't cause a scandal in the 19e century. Why not? Because it was not open to a public. It was painted for a Bey who kept it in his private erotic collection. In his possession , he kept it behind a curtain., only very few had a look at it.
Even Lacan, he acquired it in 1955 , asked someone else to made a painting to hang on top of it. Don't you think that ironical? The great psychoanalyst behaved in a secretive way concerning this painting. It was the first time showed to a public in 1988, once, and it 's only since the French state acquired it in the nineties that it is open to the public on a regular base.

Zap away,

and, while your at it, why don't you burn some books at the same time.

Most of you will do a great job! The Spanish Inquisition will look pale after you are through with all the unison negativism and total lack of humour you all seem to be proud of.

Cheers, ( please don't bother to piss against the wind: www.arnongrunberg.com is nothing but a small town community centre: no brains, guts or glory whatsoever, for this is all reserved for the man himself. ( Rutger excluded;))

@Joep

discussion?

even sand has more coherent texture then ALL this quibbling and crap

@Mieke

wrong

@Jan

Our own Cremer (Jan) did a nice job

( eh, this is a joke, and, for a joke is something you never heard of: most people like laughing when they read/hear one)

Mieke

http://www.lacan.com/courbet.htm
As you can see, the panel covering the painting is both an abstract of the painting and a mountain landscape, which is nice, I think.
I don't know if I would hang it for every visitor to see. A man is entitled to have secret images.
Slavoj Zizek, a big Lacan champion, has a reproduction hanging next to his bed. I consider myself a big admirer of Lacan as well, but not so much of Zizek.

I'm sorry but I have to do this:

check out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH95wwrhqvU&feature=related


And this one in 'English' it is almost surrealistic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh4MlX-j6oY&feature=related

RH CdG  

Zizek is not that bad, he has written interesting things on body performances in theatre. And the paper on David Lynch's Lost Highway: 'The Art of the Ridiculous Sublime', is fascinating.

Victor

Thats a good one. So if I dont like your posts, I lack a sense of humor. Its always the others, right?

Victor

You may have to think about starting a carreer as a Jehova's Witness.

@David
I had the same though the man, the passion and his humour.

Whoops - error
@David
I had the same thought about the man, the passion and his humour.

@ Rutger

Thank you for the link . I only knew it from descriptions. You are right, it is funny.

A neurotic

@david

If I would have to join some relegoiuos cult : what about those American Mormons.

But no: I am an agnostic, an agnostic who simply knows a lot more ( therefore understanding better the relativity of that ) than the average moron. Which is an oxymoron, isn't it?

VC

Agnostics are even dumber than believers. The logic of the agnost: you cant prove the non-existence of god. Wel, i believe in an invisible spaghetti-monster. Can you prove the non-existence of that? No. Is it therefore likely the monster exists..no!

Joep

Please prove your spaghetti monster does not exist (preferably before reporting here back again).

R

I just did.