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Not worth the trouble

Walter Benjamin ends his essay ‘The destructive character' with this sentence: “The destructive character does not live out of the feeling that life is worth living, but that suicide is not worth the trouble.” I don’t think I’m destructive, at least not more than others, but I agree wholeheartedly with the idea that suicide is not worth the trouble. (And I have doubts if life is worth living.)


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At least in your case: writing is worth living.
Noa
Yes, exactly.
thoughts and feelings
The destructive character doesn't live out of the THOUGHT that life is worth living but out of the THOUGHT that suicide isn't worth the trouble. But anyway, if this destructive character doesn't commit the crime of killing her-/himself, than this is not to be called destructive.
If the destruction means automutilation, a continuous suffering, selfpity but no suicide, the thoughts are looking for the feelings in every way. In order to feel. And feelings 'know' that life is worth living. Nevertheless, wanting to feel and to live can lead to death as well if you do not come over and never find what you are looking for.
You ought to know how to suffer just enough i think.
i again want to make clear that i have nothing against jewish prostitutes and nothing against you. And that b72 is a bar in Wien.

liebe gruesse
Apple pie
Dear Noa, who knows, maybe someday you'll post recipes of goulash or apple pie on this blog...
@Johannes, I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. What I'm guessing is this: when women are outspoken, you write them off as being in a crisis; when women are sensitive you write them off as being housewives. As I haven't noticed you making any similar insults to outspoken or sensitive men (eg: Jan seems to be a sensitive man), I'm thinking you detest women, period. Am I close?
Dear Noa,
I react on comments that interest me and which give the oppurtunity to say something relevant (in my opinion) back. Most of the time for example Jan Thys's comments are a bit hermetic and ethusiastic - not to say this is bad - but my comment would be useless.
When you tried to start a discussion on the content of the comments I thought that was interesting. I didn't like your moralistic approach so I showed my interest in an agressive way - I said you would like to discuss your own crisis. (Yes, I do believe that people are interested in 'bigger' issues based on personal motives.)
Two days ago after some jokes of you and me I suggested we would start a discussion on the 'real issues'. It was your idea from the beginning, I respected the point you were trying to make, but you didn't react to it.
I thought: 'That's ok, Noa is trying to make the world a better place right now.'
Today I was hugely disappointed to read a sugarcoated comment of you. I remembered you did say you can't live up to your own advice, but at least you can try. That was the reason for my Kaufmanesque comment.
By the way, I think there's nothing wrong with a good recipe for goulash or apple pie.
I think suicide can be worth the trouble. It sure has made me who I am today, and do I ever like me.

My sister bought me three books: Het aapje dat geluk pakt, de geschiedenis van mijn kaalheid and a book to help you learn Turkish. De geschiedenis van mijn kaalheid I already read, the other ones may be not as usefull.
Friede B
It’s of course a relief that you don’t hate Jews, on the other hand I don’t’ discriminate against anti-Semitics, especially not when they are young and beautiful -- or old and energetic. Your comment on Benjamin is puzzling to me, but now I know that you named yourself after a bar in Vienna things might become clearer.
Noa & Johannes
II believe the two of you should meet for goulash, it seems to me rather urgent.
As far as Jan Thys is concerned, we don’t know whether he is a man or a woman, he seems to claim that he is a man, but we don’t know for sure. Since he is used in this discussion I would like to urge the two of you to invite him for goulash as well. True love often starts with a threesome. It might end with a threesome as well.
@Arnon
To my knowledge, there are no records claiming that I am a man as there are no records claiming you are homosexual.
Indeed, yesterday with a girlfriend, I noticed that a third person really do spice up love. The more we despised or laughed with a third the hotter we got. What would we be without a third?
@Noa
I never felt Johannes is insulting me (for example, Gerard did). Although Johannes is not winner in a Rudolf Valentino contest for charming woman and other sexes. Neither is Arnon, neither am I, I think.
@Johannes
I cannot believe all this is too hermetic for you, but you have a point.
issues
I agree with Noa about her issue that the counting of people you can provide with some happiness is more valuable than the amount of money you can accumulate.
And I agree with Johannes about the question of living up to your standards.
I spent 10 years discussing with friends about the bigger issues to no end.
Now I simply try to live up to my standards, here on this blog and everywhere, even if I don not love everybody.
Jan Thys
Most readers of this site will assume that the name Jan Thys belongs to a man. Since you have been using this name for a while now when posting comments on this site, probably it is your real name, it is fair to say that you claim to be a man. Probably you are a man. Fair enough.
Now to your remark that I would not win the Rudolf Valentino contest, this is unbelievable insulting. That last night with your girlfriend didn’t turn out to be as satisfying as you had hoped for is no excuse to confront me with your grumpiness.
I believe I would win the Rudolf Valentino Contest. What on earth made you think that I am not able to win this contest? What’s going on with you today? Be ashamed, Jan Thys, be very ashamed.
You have won the contest, Arnon!
All the others are dead by laughing.
Keep on trucking in Africa or wherever. You are my number one.
That I'm being ignored is part of my selfreflection, I guess?