Manna?

I'm sure Dens will be able to fill us in. Once upon a time (yawn) I wnet through the 'XTC' fase and still believe i that (very brief) fase in my life is in part to blame for my speach impedement. I wouldn't risk it, simply not worth it. At all.

Noa

About kosher ecstasy?

Ask the Rabbi at
http://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/184/Q4/
(for example alcohol)
Or
http://reactor-core.org/~djw/myblog/archives/2006/11/07/T23_56_04/
for other drugs, but I am not sure about the source.

@Arnon

Oh that was about "one should be willing to adjust oneself" - I understood this as meaning you were willing to try non-kosher XTC and wanted to seriously advise you against, but maybe you meant XTC should be willing to become kosher. This I know nothing about.

@Noa
You are right to refer to the young ones about drugs. We, the older generation, are famous for the general amnesia about our consumption of truckloads of beer, the countless liters of cheap red wine, the K’s of hash & weed, the spoonfuls of coke sometimes accompanied with a bottle of fine champagne, the bags of psilocybin, a sparse pipe of opium and the occasional dropping of acid (LSD, to learn the great truth about the world and yourselves).
As the book of Simon Vinkenoog called, We heroes…

Noa

Only kosher ecstasy. And as far I'm concerned only on Passover.

Arnon

The worst thing about XTC is that it blocks your ability to orgasm.

Margot

Thanks Margot, I'll tell my friend.
Are there any positive side effects or do you consider the inability to get an orgasm a positive side effect?

(it's fun you should try it)

Arnon

XTC helped me to overcome my shyness.
It basically helps to overcome social fears, especially on the dance floor.
On top of that you see all people that surround you as the most amazing, lovable creatures. But not being able to orgasm after having sex for several hours really sucks.

I 'm not an expert on Kosjer XTC or any other kosjer drug.
I'm not even an expert on drugs for that matter. I've seen it all, but I 'm one of those who looks and doesn't touches. I was to plan to trip on some (kosjer, no doubt) muchrooms but that didn't work out. This'll be the drugssummer for me.

Margot

Sex for several hours should be outlawed.

There's no such thing as non-Kosher XTC. It's chemical.

I don't mind being the rabbi of this blog. I'm telling everyone that XTC is Kosher because it is not made of anything that is not Kosher. The problem may arise from the fact it is illegally produced and so each XTC may include different connectors (flour?). I don't mind supervising the production of a certain lab and stamp it Kosher. As to flour - this will not make the XTC not Kosher but only maybe not Kosher enough in Pesax (if you are a fundamentalist). As to Pesax though, if you leave your XTC and your dog will preffer not to eat it, it is becoming Kosher even if it contains flour (the same is true to thoothpast and cosmetics). Since many of us will agree that XTC is basically a medicine, thax nefesh doxe shabat"- that you can save someone's life durring the Shabbat even if it involves transgressing any of the the 39 Avot Melaxa. One can argue she saves a 'nefesh'- life, by consuming XTC. The sacredness of life is always above all. On the other hand, one can argue that smoking cigarettes and taking XTC belongs to the same category, but then the only way one might transgress any law here is by not heeding to the law: "veshmartem lenafshotexem" which means a man is responsible for his good health (and eventually life). "Veshmartem lenafshotexem" has nothing to do with laws of kashrut (kosherness).

A sentence was cut in the middle. "Pikuax nefesh doxe Shabbat" is a case to exemplify why would one can argue that XTC is practically a medicine and therefore the laws of Kashrut cannot be applied on it in the same way they are applied on foods and kitchenwear.

Social fears on the dance-floor are a good thing in some cases.

Noa,

In what cases?

@Neria - all you need to do is sit back, drink a beer and watch people dance. You'll know what I mean. I suppose you could say dancing is like writing - everyone does it and that's fine of course, but let's make sure to clear the dancefloor for the pros, however much XTC we've taken. Because XTC doesn't necessarily make your dancing (or writing, or any of the other arts) any better. You'll probably say "who cares? As long as I am having fun on the dancefloor." Yes, but there will always people sitting back, drinking beer and watching you. And they will never forget what they saw.

Noa,

Basically you shouldn't care at all for what the others in the back think of you. I understand that one takes XTC for the utterly poisoning "others" (inhibitors) which were internalized into ones psyche, as to the poisoning others outside. I do not see the difference between beer and XTC, in fact I recall that in my artificially wild youth (artificially because I needed then, as I do now, the external aid of chemicals and drinks to overcome my inhibitions) I was invited to dance professionally after being watched dancing without any inhibitions. But that's not the point , when I go out I don't wish to better myself during those hours.

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The choreographer's invitation came after I had already 5 liters of beer running in my blood (and not XTC), that's why I didn't see the difference between XTC and alcohol.

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Only now I fully understand what you wrote, I think it took me long minutes to fully grasp it because it is so shocking, to my opinion. The idea of depriving unprofessionals from dancing is so violent that I cannot connect it with the image of you that was left in my head (see the entry of Blonde and Brunette). I'd say leave surgery to the pros, but dancing?! Even if I was an awful dancer I would never think of not dancing on a "democratic" dancing floor (democratic because you either pay for clubbing, or that you're a guest). Did you ever experience dancing as a huge fun?

@ Neria. Relax, have a beer, sit back and observe the dancers a little (said the blind man to the fool...).

Noa,

It's unlike me. I don't watch tv - I make it.

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Your good advice irritates me because it took me years to overcome my own dreadful and ridiculous laws of perfectionism. At least I do my best not to instill them in others. Secondly, if you do remember our discussion about children, where you were the one who encouraged others to bring children to the world regardless their true readiness for the task, now advising others to abstain themeselves from dancing if they are not pros seems a little bit twisted: it places the needs of your own kids below those of the people in the background. Of course, if you didn't mean a word you wrote and you were only joking, then regard all of my replies as none.

@Neria, please, you're overreacting! I never said the non-pros should obstain from dancing (read carefully). Allowing a pro to take the limelight is something entirely different than clearing the floor for that same pro. If anything, I simply wanted to make a cause for self-awareness. Personally, I remember each and every moron on the dance-floor. This doesn't mean I dislike the person, I simply remember that's all. Does it stop me from dancing? No. Similarly, everyone here will remember all the stupid things I wrote here. Do I care and does it stop me from commenting? No, but I'm aware of it. Last but not least, I know that I can improve my dancing by simply watching the pros instead of blindly spinning circles in a selfengaged druginfested frenzy.

Noa,

Are we talking parties? This is what I thought we were talking about. We are imperferfect, why bother hiding it? I don't know much about lime lights because there weren't any on the dance floors I have visited. Cages? ;)) No point really going to a club and keep being self aware all the time, unless you are an antropologist on a mission.

@Neria

And still, I'm sure you remember what your boss or even headmaster looked like on the (private party) dancefloor.