On Jews once again – Douthat talking to Yoram Hazony in NYT:

Hazony: ‘Well, I’m not completely sure that I’m going to end up with antisemites in my coalition. I have discovered that a small number of people who were trusted members have defected to a somewhat different worldview. They don’t have the same worldview in 2025 that they had in 2022. I’m really not entirely sure what the causes of that were, but I think that the assertion that national independence leads to some kind of Nazism and antisemitism is intellectually fallacious.
I think what is true is that Marxists and liberals and nationalists all have their own ways of coming to find it useful to hate Jews and to make the hatred of Jews a helpful political maneuver. And the nationalist conservative movement is certainly not immune to it.
The people who are in charge at this moment are not antisemites and they’re not sympathetic to antisemites. So we’ll see whether five years, 10 years, 25 years from now, whether American nationalism is going to be fundamentally like the movement that Trump built, which is very welcoming to Jews, or whether it’s going to be something very different.’

Read the interview here.

Welcoming to Jews? To some Jews I would say.

Hazony is playing the rightwing antisemitism, he acknowledges that it exist, and then insists that the leftists have their own antisemites. Yes, they do.

But Stalin’s antisemitism, doesn’t make Hitler’s brand more nuanced or less dangerous.

It’s certainly not only Fuentes, but what we see is that Jew-hatred has become sexy and kind of glamorous again, in certain circles.

And Hazony says that these people are the new elites, tomorrow’s leaders.

He is betting on, of course, education ‘I feel that much of what’s missing right now is making relevant educational experiences available to those people who want it. I think that that would be much more effective than a lot of what’s going on in the public debate right now, where there’s all these accusations of: It’s the 1930s. It’s Weimar — I think that’s not accurate.’

No not accurate, but education is not going to convert the new antisemites.

And nationalists have much more reason to despise the unpure than liberals, who harbor some universal sentiments.

And I’m skeptical about universalism, but without it, without a grain of idealism, without the hope that there are laws that are applicable to any human being we are back in the jungle.
And yes, we are in the jungle already. But some more than others.